<small>(''The first version of what follows was copied on 13 Poutū-te-rangi 2006 from [[Wikipedia:Kōrero]]'')</small>

==Alphabetical order - where should macron'''is'''ed letters go?==
Our energetic German friend Gangleri has asked me this, but I think it needs several of us or maybe just the "mi-3+" people:

* Halló Robin! I would like to have your feedback concerning [[m:WiktionaryZ|WiktionaryZ]] [[m:talk:WiktionaryZ|T]]: '''[[m:talk:WiktionaryZ#Collation by a certain locale|Collation by a certain locale]]''' and '''[[m:talk:WiktionaryZ#new magic words|new magic words]]'''.
* Please take a look at [[wikt:template:wikivar]] and "''related '''red''' templates''" at [[wikt:is:template:wikivar]]. Would be happy if you could take care of the "'''''red''' templates''". 

(There's a bit more on my talk page)

I didn't know what it was about at first reading. That's because I hadn't looked at [[m:talk:WiktionaryZ#Collation by a certain locale|Collation by a certain locale]]. Clearer now. 

Do we want our 10 macron characters to follow Z or z in lists or do we want them close to the vowels they resemble?

[[User:Robin Patterson|Robin Patterson]] 21:25, 8 Poutū-te-rangi 2006 (UTC)

(''This deserves a separate page; maybe Kahuroa can suggest a name for it but this - from Reed - will do meantime: project:whakarārangi-ā-pū'')

:I am not sure that there is an official way for the macronised letters to be listed in the alphabet. I have submitted a query to the korero maori website and it will take a few days for them to get back to me - I hope I get a useful reply, not just waffle.  [[User:Kahuroa|Kahuroa]] 07:06, 9 Poutū-te-rangi 2006 (UTC)

:: Thanks Kahuroa for the feedback! I made some guesses at [[wikt:template:wikivar#miscelaneous]]. Best regards [[User:Gangleri|Gangleri]] | [[User_talk:Gangleri|T]] | [[m:user:Gangleri|m:]] [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/user_talk:Gangleri?action=history Th] | [[m:user talk:Gangleri|T]] 21:41, 9 Poutū-te-rangi 2006 (UTC)

: Here's the reply (excerpt only since I dont think I should post someone else's email with any identifying elements):
*''There is no 'official' order as such to the alphabet. The complete Māori alphabet looks something like this: a ā e ē h i ī k m n o ō p r t u ū w wh ng'' 

:Hope that helps [[User:Kahuroa|Kahuroa]] 04:36, 10 Poutū-te-rangi 2006 (UTC)

:: Thanks a lot! Updated both [[template:wikivar#miscelaneous]] and [[wikt:template:wikivar#miscelaneous|wikt:]]. ... Best regards [[User:Gangleri|Gangleri]] | [[User_talk:Gangleri|T]] | [[m:user:Gangleri|m:]] [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/user_talk:Gangleri?action=history Th] | [[m:user talk:Gangleri|T]] 12:28, 10 Poutū-te-rangi 2006 (UTC)